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S03E14: Chris Pateman-Jones – The Key to Equitable EV Charging with Connected Kerb

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S03E14: Dr Chris Pateman-Jones – The Key to Equitable EV Charging with Connected Kerb

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Dr Chris Pateman-Jones, CEO of Connected Kerb, discusses the company’s efforts to build one of the fastest-growing public EV charging networks in the UK. Connected Kerb focuses on making charging infrastructure equitable, reliable, and accessible, particularly for drivers without home charging. Chris highlights challenges like land access, grid constraints, and government policy, and shares how AI and modular designs are shaping the future of EV charging.

14 May 2025: UPDATE SINCE RECORDING – We recorded this episode on 12 March 2025, as the ZEV Mandate consultation launched by the Labour government last year was still underway. You will hear Dr Pateman-Jones and myself chatting, and, given it hadn’t happened yet, speculating, about the forthcoming changes. The outcome of the Government response broadly aligned with the direction of maintaining ZEV targets that Dr Pateman-Jones suggests in the episode. Now it’s on to the next phase and, having spoken with Dr Pateman-Jones, I can confirm his hope is that the promised incentives package to help adoption will be forthcoming. You can read the full outcome of the ZEV Mandate consultation on the UK Government website, here: https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/phasing-out-sales-of-new-petrol-and-diesel-cars-from-2030-and-supporting-the-zev-transition/outcome/phasing-out-sales-of-new-petrol-and-diesel-cars-from-2030-and-supporting-the-zev-transition-summary-of-responses-and-joint-government-response
The time codes for the discussion are from 13:30 to ~17:00 in the recording.

Guest Name: Dr Chris Pateman-Jones

Dr Chris Pateman-Jones, Chief Executive Officer: Experienced infrastructure executive with extensive commercial, innovation and strategy experience developing projects in the energy and commodities sectors, initially with Bechtel and more recently as EY’s Global Infrastructure Director. He joined the Connected Kerb team in 2018, initially to lead Product and Strategy before becoming Chief Executive Officer in November 2019. In March 2024, he was appointed Chair of ChargeUK, the trade association body for the EV charging. 

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S03E13 – Melanie Shufflebotham – Mapping the EV Charging Landscape

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S3E13 – Melanie Shufflebotham – Mapping the EV Charging Landscape

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Melanie Shufflebotham, co-founder and COO of Zapmap, the UK’s leading app for electric vehicle (EV) drivers to locate charging stations and plan trips, shares Zapmap’s journey from a basic Google Map overlay in 2014 to a robust platform with live data, user reviews, and payment options. Zapmap also supports businesses and local authorities with insights into EV charging trends to prepare for a sustainable, electrified future.

NOTE: This episode was recorded on 14 December 2024. For operational reasons, it was not possible to release it earlier. In the original, Melanie and I discussed potential changes to the ZEV mandate which, at the time, were still out for consultation. Since recording, there have been clarifications. You can hear about these in the previous episode with Vicky Edmonds from EVA England.

Guest Name: Melanie Shufflebotham


Melanie Shufflebotham is the co-founder and COO of Zapmap, the UK’s leading EV mapping app.  Having worked in the space for over ten years, Melanie is an EV market expert, with deep knowledge of the charging market and EV data sets. As co-founder she developed the Zapmap app, products and initial revenue streams. Now, as Zapmap scales ready for the mass take-up of electric cars, she continues to be focused on making charging simple for EV drivers as well as providing data and insights to business & fleets to help them develop their electrified services.  

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S03E12: Vicky Edmonds – What’s Really Stopping Drivers from Going Electric?

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S03E12: Vicky Edmonds – What’s Really Stopping Drivers from Going Electric?

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Vicky from EVA England discusses how the organisation represents current and future electric vehicle (EV) drivers, advocating for policy changes and regulatory reform. EVA England acts as a consumer champion, addressing challenges such as charging infrastructure, vehicle costs, and accessibility for disabled users. With 500+ active members, they provide a critical voice in shaping the future of EV adoption and smoother transitions to electric vehicles.

Guest Name: Vicky Edmonds

Dr Vicky Edmonds is a leading expert in the EV and net-zero landscape, with nearly two decades of experience shaping UK government transport decarbonisation policy. 

As former Head of the Office for Low Emission Vehicles (now OZEV), she spearheaded the UK’s 2030 phase-out of new petrol and diesel cars and led transformative projects like the £950m Rapid Charging Fund. 

An experienced policy maker, she’s also been a passionate EV driver for six years, giving her first-hand insight into the evolving EV market. Her expertise also extends to legislation, including the 2018 Automated Electric Vehicles Act, and to wider energy system decarbonisation strategies through her work with the Energy Systems Catapult. 

As CEO of EVA England, she champions the interests of EV drivers and advocates for a cleaner and fairer transport future. 

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PAS 1899

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S03E11: Jon Burdekin – Salary Sacrifice: The Secret to Affordable EVs?

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S03E11: Jon Burdekin – Salary Sacrifice: The Secret to Affordable EVs?

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Toby and Jon Burdekin dive into the challenges and opportunities of fleet electrification. They discuss the evolution of electric vehicle infrastructure, the growing role of salary sacrifice schemes in making EVs more accessible, and the misconceptions surrounding EV adoption. Jon shares insights on how businesses can smoothly transition their fleets while avoiding common pitfalls.

Guest Name: Jon Burdekin

Jon has 30 years’ experience in the UK leasing and fleet finance industry, having previously worked for such major leasing companies as Alphabet GB Ltd and GE Capital Fleet Services.  His 15-year career with Alphabet incorporated roles as Account Manager, Head of Account Management, and Head of Consulting Services. 

Client relationships that Jon had direct responsibility for included McDonald’s, BOC, Shell, Oracle, Royal and Sun Alliance and the BBC. By managing such large vehicle fleets, he has gained extensive knowledge in helping clients transition to electric – incorporating all the component parts of that journey. 

A subject matter expert in the adoption of electric vehicles and salary sacrifice schemes, Jon led Alphabet’s Electric Vehicle proposition, AlphaElectric, and is the accredited EV and salary sacrifice trainer for both the British Vehicle Rental and Leasing Association (BVRLA) and the Association of Fleet Professionals (AFP).  Jon has also delivered EV training directly for such clients as LV=, Leaseplan, AA Drivetech, Arval, United Rental Group, SG Fleet, Athlon, Select Car Leasing, Volvo, Citygate Group, Holdcroft Group and Norton Way Motors. 

Delegate satisfaction rates consistently exceed 95% and Jon is able to demonstrate measurable improvements in EV confidence and knowledge of between 60% and 300%.  

Jon has run his own consultancy business since January 2019 with the aim of enhancing subject matter knowledge on all aspects of Salary Sacrifice and EV adoption, and helping clients educate their customers for the transition to 100% electric by 2030 (cars), or 2035 (LCVs).  

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JB Consulting

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S03E10: Neill Emmett – Are Motorway Service Stations the Key to EV Success?

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S03E10: Neill Emmett – Are Motorway Service Stations the Key to EV Success?

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Toby speaks with Neill Emmett, Global Marketing & Brand Director at Gilbarco Veeder-Root, a company with a 160-year legacy in refueling and energy solutions. Now leading the EV transition, Gilbarco’s Konect provides turnkey solutions for fuel retailers adapting to electric charging. Neill shares insights on seamless EV infrastructure, retail profitability, and the future of fuel stations in the electrified world.

In the episode, Toby and Neill discuss Konect’s role in EV transition, how to ensure quality service in EV charging, competition in the EV charging landscape, monetising the EV charging experience, adapting to the EV Transition, how Konect expands beyond fuel sites, and how best to address myths and misunderstandings about EVs.

Guest Name: Neill Emmett

Neill Emmett is the Global Marketing and Brand Director at Konect, a subsidiary of Gilbarco Veeder-Root. He has over 25 years of experience leading award-winning campaigns in vehicle electrification and financial services. Known for strategic expertise and team empowerment, he joined Konect to redefine EV charging infrastructure delivery. 

Konect provides a turnkey electric vehicle (EV) charging infrastructure ecosystem, enabling seamless integration with existing fuelling, payment, and service offerings. 

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S03E09: Tom Hurst: Will EV Charging Keep Up? The Future of Ultra-Rapid Charging

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S03E09: Tom Hurst: Will EV Charging Keep Up? The Future of Ultra-Rapid Charging

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Toby welcomes Tom Hurst from FastNed, a leading company in ultra-rapid EV charging across Europe. Fastned operates in nine countries with over 2,000 chargers at 340+ locations, providing high-speed, accessible charging solutions. Tom shares his journey from oil and gas to sustainable energy, discusses the evolution of EV infrastructure, and tackles industry myths, highlighting Fastned’s commitment to efficiency, accessibility, and future expansion.

Guest Name: Tom Hurst

Tom Hurst, UK Country Director: Tom joined Fastned in late 2017 and is currently its UK Country Manager, where he is responsible for driving the roll-out of the UK’s best-rated charging network. Prior to getting involved in the e-mobility adventure, he spent six years as a consultant with Arup, advising cities, governments, NGOs, and corporations on their energy and climate change strategy. He has a Masters in Mechanical Engineering, an MSc in Sustainable Energy, an MBA and is a Chartered Environmentalist. 

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S03E08: George Symes: 🚨 Can Emergency Vehicles Go Electric? 🚓⚡

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S03E08: George Symes: 🚨 Can Emergency Vehicles Go Electric? 🚓⚡

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Toby speaks with George Symes, founder of Evaluate Strategy, a consultancy specialising in decarbonising complex fleets. With over 15 years in transport and infrastructure consulting, George shares insights on the challenges and opportunities of electrifying emergency services, rental fleets, and logistics companies. From the UK’s ZEV mandate to fleet telematics, this discussion dives into the future of sustainable mobility.

Guest Name: George Symes

George runs EValuate Strategy Consulting, helping complex fleets to decarbonise. These fleets include emergency services, and shared mobility operators such as car rental, car sharing and e-scooter operators. Typically, they are characterised by unpredictable and “spikey” demand, critical services and a “many-to-one” relationship between the drivers and vehicles. 

George has over 15 years strategy consulting experience in the infrastructure, automotive and mobility industries, with experience across fleet and charging infrastructure in the UK, mainland Europe and Australia. He has diverse experience within new mobility in both advisory and operational roles: with Neuron Mobility (e-scooter and e-bike sharing), Zipcar (car and van sharing) and Avis. 

Prior to EValuate he worked at GrainCorp and KPMG, focused on infrastructure, transport and energy clients. 

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S03E07: Matthew Lumsden – How Connected Energy is Giving EV Batteries a Second Life

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S03E07: Matthew Lumsden – How Connected Energy is Giving EV Batteries a Second Life

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Matthew Lumsden, CEO of Connected Energy, discusses how his company repurposes second-life EV batteries for energy storage solutions. Connected Energy, founded in 2013, emerged from an EV charging project that highlighted grid limitations. By working with Renault and securing investments from Volvo Energy and Caterpillar, they’ve created an innovative approach to sustainable energy. Matthew shares insights into battery sourcing, quality control, and the future of energy storage.

Guest Name: Matthew Lumsden


Matthew has worked in the renewable energy and clean tech sector since 2000 when he joined energy consultancy, TNEI. He then established an electric vehicle related consultancy in 2009 where he was responsible for delivering several major EV trails, charging infrastructure roll outs, V2G trials and strategies for major industry players.  

Connected Energy was born out of the insight and knowledge gained in the EV industry and the challenges facing OEMs around electric vehicle batteries. Combining the worlds of energy storage, electric vehicles and the circular economy, the company commercialised its innovative E-STOR system which is now in operation at businesses across the UK and in Europe. The company is now scaling up in response to the growing availability of second life EV batteries and is developing utility scale battery energy storage sites. 

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S3 E6: Linda Grave – What’s Next for Electric Vehicles?

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S3 E6: Linda Grave – What’s Next for Electric Vehicles?

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Linda Grave, founder of EV Driver, discusses her journey from renewable energy to pioneering the EV charging sector. She shares how she built and sold a successful charging network, her passion for user-friendly EV solutions, and the importance of interoperability. Linda offers insights on industry challenges, innovations like battery storage and solar PV integration, and promotes her upcoming EVEX 2025 event, aimed at showcasing the future of electric vehicles and renewable energy technologies.

Guest Name: Linda Grave


Linda Grave is an entrepreneur who has built successful companies within the renewable energy and EV sectors over an 18-year period, with a wealth of experience in building successful EV Charging networks. Linda is focused on business growth and development within the EV sector.

In 2016 she started to build the EV Driver network of public charge points in the East of England, with an emphasis on providing an easy access PAYG network for all to use. She sold the network in January 2020 to allow her to focus on helping others create the best user-friendly EV charging solutions. Linda is a pioneer in EV roaming and interoperability in the UK, passionate about ensuring the barriers to access are lowered and that customer satisfaction is paramount.

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EV Driver

Linda on LinkedIn

EVEX 2025 (Save the date)

Highlights from EVEX 2024

Recognised as one of the Top Women in EV 2022

Awarded one of the prestigious EV Champion awards 2022 by Green Fleet

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S3 E5: Niall Riddell – Why EV Drivers Hate Public Charging (And How PAUA is Solving It!)

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S3 E5: Niall Riddell – Why EV Drivers Hate Public Charging (And How PAUA is Solving It!)

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Niall Riddell, founder of PAUA, discusses how their platform is transforming the EV charging experience for all EV drivers. PAUA streamlines payments across public, home, and workplace charging, reducing complexity and admin for businesses. Niall also shares insights on the challenges of fragmented charging networks, the importance of seamless payments, and innovations like ISO 15118 that aim to simplify the future of EV adoption.

Guest Name: Niall Riddell


Niall Riddell is the CEO and co-founder of Paua, a technology start-up based in London that simplifies electric vehicle (EV) fleet charging and payments for businesses. With a focus on sustainability and innovation, Niall leads Paua in delivering solutions that address challenges such as reimbursement for home charging, fraud detection, and integrating diverse charging networks including shared depots. He brings expertise in fleet electrification and a passion for enabling businesses to transition to cleaner transport. Niall’s entrepreneurial journey reflects his commitment to advancing EV technology while making it accessible and efficient for companies across the UK. He is the winner of the EVIES 2024 special recognition award, number 55 in the Green Fleet top 100 and worked previously at SSE as Smart Systems Director and EDF Energy as Head of Electric Vehicles. He holds an MBA from City University and an MEng from Newcastle University.  

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Fuuse App Shell Recharge SolutionsCharge Place Scotland
SpiriiBP PulseInstavolt
DriivzIndraGRIDSERVE
AmpecoMotor Fuel Group (MFG)Osprey
GreenfluxANBWIonity
SWARCOmyenergiFastned
HubjectPod PointMonta
PlugMeInMercedes eActros 600 eTruckHive (EV)
ElectraDAF XB Electric eTruckGreen Fleet
(Green Fleet EV Rally Cymru 2024)

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